P0717: Input/turbine speed sensor: no signal
The control unit receives no signal at all from the automatic gearbox input speed sensor, due to a broken wire, the connector or the sensor.
| Code | P0717 |
|---|---|
| System | Engine and transmission |
| Group | P07xx, Transmission |
| Type | Generic: it means the same on every make |
| Can you keep driving? | With care |
What P0717 means
The input (or turbine) speed sensor measures how fast the shaft going into the automatic gearbox is turning. By comparing it with engine speed and output speed, the control unit knows which gear is engaged, whether anything is slipping and when to shift. This code means that with the car moving the signal never appears.
Most common causes
- Sensor connector unplugged or with spread terminals
- Broken sensor wire
- Faulty sensor
- Sensor fitted wrongly or too far from its toothed wheel
- Transmission control unit fault (uncommon)
Symptoms
- Engine or gearbox warning light on
- Harsh or badly timed shifts
- Gearbox stuck in one gear (limp mode)
- Engine revving up during shifts
Can you drive with P0717?
With care You can drive with care, but the gearbox usually locks into one gear and acceleration suffers. Get it to a garage soon and avoid long trips like this.
Open the bonnetthe in-depth explanation
How to check it
If the gearbox or sensor has been worked on recently, first check the connector is fully plugged in. A garage can measure the sensor signal while the shaft is turning.
How to read and clear P0717 with Final OBD
Plug an OBD2 scanner in under the steering wheel, switch the ignition on and open Final OBD. Under Faults you’ll see P0717 with its description and whether it’s confirmed, pending or permanent.
This code is usually stored by the gearbox control unit. If the car reports it over standard OBD, you read it for nothing with FREE; to read it straight from the gearbox control unit, with its description and clearing, you need PRO.
Clearing the code only turns the light off: if the cause is still there, it comes back. Clear it once it’s fixed, and not right before an inspection. It’s all in how to read and clear fault codes and in inspections and OBD.
Similar codes
- P0713 Transmission fluid temperature sensor: circuit high
- P0714 Transmission fluid temperature sensor: circuit intermittent
- P0715 Input/turbine speed sensor: circuit fault
- P0716 Input/turbine speed sensor: range/performance
- P0718 The gearbox turbine shaft speed sensor circuit fails intermittently
- P0719 The brake switch B circuit has a low signal
- P071A The gearbox mode switch A has an electrical fault
- P071B The gearbox mode switch A gives a lower signal than normal
- P0700 Transmission control system: fault detected
- P0701 Transmission control system: range/performance
- P0702 Transmission control system: electrical fault
- P0703 Torque converter/brake switch B: circuit fault
What does code P0717 mean?
The input (or turbine) speed sensor measures how fast the shaft going into the automatic gearbox is turning. By comparing it with engine speed and output speed, the control unit knows which gear is engaged, whether anything is slipping and when to shift. This code means that with the car moving the signal never appears.
Can you drive with P0717?
You can drive with care, but the gearbox usually locks into one gear and acceleration suffers. Get it to a garage soon and avoid long trips like this.
How do you clear P0717?
With an OBD2 scanner and an app like Final OBD, which clears it for free if it’s stored by the engine control unit. But clearing it only turns the light off: if the cause isn’t fixed, P0717 comes back.
